2:52:20 -2:55:12
Margarita Simonyan, journalist-propagandist, head of RT TV:
"Kassym-Jomart Kemelevich: I
understand that the question is not simple and can be answered in different
ways, but I cannot not ask you about your opinion about our special operation, and
its inevitability as we here believe, and its legitimacy."
Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, president
of Kazakhstan:
“To say it
straight, there are different opinions. We have an open society and therefore there are different opinions . But I
would like to say the following:
“Modern
international law – this is the UN Charter – but the two basic principles
enshrined in it, have come into conflict with each other nowadays: the territorial integrity of states and the right of a
nation to self-determination. The founders of the UN obviously did not take
this moment into account and may have deliberately compromised the two
principles, which now contradict each other.
“Of course, while they contradict each other, there
are misunderstandings: some say that territorial integrity is a sacred concept,
a sacred category, while others say that all peoples in a country are their own
state and can be separated from her at will.
“But it is generally believed that if a nation’s
right to self-determination was in fact exercised around the world, on Earth there would be more than 500 or 600 countries instead
of the 193 countries that are now part of the UN. Of course, this would be
chaos.
“For this reason, we will not recognize Taiwan,
Kosovo, South Ossetia or Abkhazia. And in all likelihood, this principle will
be applied to quasi-state territories, such as are, in our opinion, Lugansk and Donetsk.
This is an honest answer to your honest question.
