Amazing! Last
night in an interview with CNN Ehud Barak, Israel ’s defense minister,
demonstrated that he understood what takiyya meant. This shows that the Israeli leadership understands
Islamic concepts used by Iran
to confuse and deceive the gullible West.
Only two months ago Ari
Shavit in an article in Ha’aretz revealed that Netanyahu held in-depth
discussions with Bernard Lewis who convinced Netanyahu that if the ayatollahs
obtained nuclear weapons they would use them.
In contrast
to President Obama and the Europeans, Israel ’s leaders know what they are
doing.
From the Jerusalem Post:
Barak
mentioned a Muslim notion called takkiya, which he said grants Muslims the right to lie in order to
deceive non-Muslims, for the sake of the religion.
From CNN:
Aired
April 19, 2012 - 15:00:00 ET
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AMANPOUR:
Right now there is an enormous amount of talk and focus about the fatwa by
Iran's Supreme Leader, who's in charge of all the program, not only Iranians
are talking about the fatwa, in which he said that Iran would not possess,
would not develop, it's a great sin under Islam to have a nuclear weapon or
anything, of weapons of mass destruction.
But it's not just him. It's Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. It's even President Barack Obama. It's the prime minister ofTurkey .
It's many people now talking about this fatwa as if it could be some kind of
diplomatic exit, an offramp to the crisis.
BARAK: I don't buy it so easily. It is the same Khamenei who said just a year ago, his quote, Gadhafi for buying so easy the pressure to give -- to give up his nuclear (inaudible). He pointed to where he is now.
Have you heard the term atakia (ph), which means in Islam, especially in the Shia, a kind of permission from heaven to the leader to lie and mislead. (Inaudible) as long as it's really in order to reach the objective, the political objectives of the movement agobo (ph), the tribal (inaudible) of the nation. So it's -- I don't buy it.
I follow the facts on the ground, enrichment continues. They got a pose (ph) of five months, five weeks until the next (inaudible). But, God (ph), everything is still working. It is clear to all of us, to (inaudible) whoever that the Iranians are focused on, which in nuclear military capability, they are already as ever to defy and deceive the whole world.
But it's not just him. It's Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. It's even President Barack Obama. It's the prime minister of
BARAK: I don't buy it so easily. It is the same Khamenei who said just a year ago, his quote, Gadhafi for buying so easy the pressure to give -- to give up his nuclear (inaudible). He pointed to where he is now.
Have you heard the term atakia (ph), which means in Islam, especially in the Shia, a kind of permission from heaven to the leader to lie and mislead. (Inaudible) as long as it's really in order to reach the objective, the political objectives of the movement agobo (ph), the tribal (inaudible) of the nation. So it's -- I don't buy it.
I follow the facts on the ground, enrichment continues. They got a pose (ph) of five months, five weeks until the next (inaudible). But, God (ph), everything is still working. It is clear to all of us, to (inaudible) whoever that the Iranians are focused on, which in nuclear military capability, they are already as ever to defy and deceive the whole world.
AMANPOUR: You're obviously very concerned, and so are many,
should Iran
get a nuclear capability that's military. As I said, the U.S. does not
believe any such decision has been made. But there are people --
BARAK: No, no, no. The -- I want to correct you.
AMANPOUR: But that's what they tell us.
BARAK: No, no, listen. Ask them the following question. Are they --
(CROSSTALK)
AMANPOUR: -- their intelligence doesn't --
BARAK: No, no. I know, I'm talking for the American intelligence. I've talked to American leaders. There is no difference in the assessment of intelligence. It's true that probably Khamenei did not give an order to start building a weapon or a device.
But why he's doing this, just because he understands that if he starts to break the IEA and start to actually build a weapon, he might find himself faced with an American response, your response or whatever, in a way that might damage him. And that's the only reason why he did not give the order. But they're clearly heading toward this objective.
AMANPOUR: But if that's the case, then, then surely the pressure is working, that they're not doing it, as you said, because the pressure is there and the threat of (inaudible) what you might do.
BARAK: These are quite effective sanctions. But it's still far away from working.
AMANPOUR: I just want to go back to the fatwa in regard to what you've just said. As I said, many American officials are talking publicly about the fatwa. And there is a thought that President Obama might agree to allowIran a civilian
enrichment program if they can back up their fatwa and prove that they're not
going to go the military route. Would you accept that?
BARAK: There's only (inaudible) fatwa if they stop enriching for 20 percent. They stop bringing out of country to a friendly mutually-agreed (ph) state.
BARAK: No, no, no. The -- I want to correct you.
AMANPOUR: But that's what they tell us.
BARAK: No, no, listen. Ask them the following question. Are they --
(CROSSTALK)
AMANPOUR: -- their intelligence doesn't --
BARAK: No, no. I know, I'm talking for the American intelligence. I've talked to American leaders. There is no difference in the assessment of intelligence. It's true that probably Khamenei did not give an order to start building a weapon or a device.
But why he's doing this, just because he understands that if he starts to break the IEA and start to actually build a weapon, he might find himself faced with an American response, your response or whatever, in a way that might damage him. And that's the only reason why he did not give the order. But they're clearly heading toward this objective.
AMANPOUR: But if that's the case, then, then surely the pressure is working, that they're not doing it, as you said, because the pressure is there and the threat of (inaudible) what you might do.
BARAK: These are quite effective sanctions. But it's still far away from working.
AMANPOUR: I just want to go back to the fatwa in regard to what you've just said. As I said, many American officials are talking publicly about the fatwa. And there is a thought that President Obama might agree to allow
BARAK: There's only (inaudible) fatwa if they stop enriching for 20 percent. They stop bringing out of country to a friendly mutually-agreed (ph) state.
One more observation. Even after Barak mentioned
takkiya and the fact that
he does not buy anything Iran
says Amanpour continues to mention the fatwa as if his answer went completely
undetected by her. Either she is faking that she does not understand what Ehud
Barak had just said or she really is
incapable of comprehending what he is saying since she automatically rejects
this as total nonsense.
Definition of taqiyya from Sharia:
The Threat to America
12. Lying/Taqiyya: It is permissible for a Muslim to lie, especially to non-Muslims,
to
safeguard himself personally or to protect
Islam.
• “Let not the believers take the disbelievers
as friends instead of the believers, and
whoever does that, will never be helped by Allah
in any way, unless you indeed
fear a danger from them. And Allah warns
you against Himself, and to Allah is
the final return.” (Q 3:28)
• “‘Unless you indeed fear a danger from them’
meaning, except those believers who
in some areas or times fear for their safety
from the disbelievers. In this case,
such believers are allowed to show friendship to
the disbelievers outwardly, but
never inwardly.…‘We smile in the face of some
people although our hearts curse
them.’” (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Vol 2, 141)
• “Mohammed said, ‘War is deceit.’”
(Bukhari vol.4:267 and 269)
• “He who makes peace between the people by
inventing good
saying good things, is not a liar.”
(Bukhari vol.3:857 p.533)