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| Nikolai Patrushev |
The following is the google translation from Russian
https://aif.ru/politics/world/rossiyu_hotyat_prevratit_v_moskoviyu_nikolay_patrushev_o_zapade_i_ukraine
To what actions of the West is Moscow preparing to
react and what policy can be set to oppose them? Nikolai Patrushev,
Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, discussed them
with aif.ru.
A turbulent situation
Vitaly Tseplyaev, aif.ru:
Nikolai Platonovich, how do you assess the situation in the world that has
developed by the beginning of the new year?
Nikolai Patrushev: The situation in the world
is extremely complex and has a turbulent character. Many countries in different
regions are simultaneously in a military-political, economic, social and
spiritual crisis. Let's hope there will be positive changes this year.
— You once said that the leadership of Western
countries is not doing anything to improve the situation, not only in the
world, but even in their own countries. Explain what is at stake?
- Western politicians do not have the strength and
ability to change life in their states for the better, since they have not been
independent figures for a long time. Everyone has connections with big
business, lobbyists, and foundations behind their backs. They do not even hide
these facts. There are very recent examples. As it turned out, dozens of MEPs
were controlled by the structures of George Soros, and the European Commission,
at the behest of one of the world's largest American pharmaceutical companies,
created a number of corruption schemes for the purchase of vaccines worth tens
of billions of euros. It is clear that the real power in the West is in the
hands of resourceful clans and transnational corporations
— Do you mean Rockefellers and Rothschilds?
— In fact, there are many more such corporations and
clans. Thus, the total income of the 500 largest companies in the world,
according to unofficial data, reached almost $38 trillion in 2021. The bulk of
transnational companies are corporations headquartered in the United States.
Their revenues brought in about $16 trillion with a net profit of $1.8
trillion.
The capital of a number of transnational companies
exceeds the GDP of most of the world's economies, and the funds created by them
for further enrichment claim to be a supranational mechanism for managing humanity.
The same Soros Foundation became almost the main world center for planning and
implementing “color revolutions”.
Two actors in one play
— Do you want to say that even the US
authorities are not pursuing an independent policy?
- In fact, the American state is just a shell for a
conglomerate of huge corporations that rule the country and try to dominate the
world. For TNCs, even US presidents are just extras who can be shut up, like Trump.
All four assassinations of American leaders are connected to the corporate
trail. It is no coincidence that a growing number of Americans are saying that
Republicans and Democrats are just two actors in one play that has nothing to
do with democracy.
The American authorities, merged with big business,
serve the interests of transnational corporations, including the
military-industrial complex. The assertive foreign policy of the White House,
the unbridled aggressiveness of NATO, the emergence of the military bloc AUKUS
and others are also a consequence of corporate influence. The draft American
budget for 2023 is the best evidence of Washington's plans to unleash new wars
to the detriment of the well-being of its own citizens. The American
authorities, merged with big business, serve the interests of transnational
corporations, including the military-industrial complex. The assertive foreign
policy of the White House, the unbridled aggressiveness of NATO, the emergence
of the military bloc AUKUS and others are also a consequence of corporate
influence. The draft American budget for 2023 is the best evidence of
Washington's plans to unleash new wars to the detriment of the well-being of
its own citizens. Of the $1.7 trillion planned federal government spending,
half is earmarked for defense—more than $850 billion. Only for the continuation
of hostilities in Ukraine and the prolongation of the conflict, it is planned
to allocate 45 billion rubles.
This is despite the fact that the United States
itself and its henchmen are irretrievably sliding into a debt hole. The American
public debt has reached more than thirty-one trillion dollars. England's £2.4
trillion debt is the highest it has been since World War II, exceeding 101% of
gross domestic product. The world record for the ratio of debt to GDP - more
than 2.6 times - was set by Japan with a public debt of almost ten trillion
dollars. Only the countries that consider themselves masters of the world are
not going to return these debts.
Previously, the West came to prosperity and achieved
world domination through colonial conquests. This is exactly how transnational
companies behave today, preferring to increase their capital by pumping
resources from other countries. At the same time, they use their system of
brainwashing the masses in order to impose on the population of the planet in
every possible way the idea of certain rules that they themselves came up with
and that do not comply with international law.
— So, do you really think that when operating in
various countries of the world, TNCs seriously influence local political and
socio-economic processes?
- Right. On the one hand, they introduce new
technologies through foreign direct investment and increase labor productivity.
Only the population cannot take advantage of these results, since companies
permanently crowd out the local producer, becoming monopolists. By exporting
the main volumes of profits, they deprive countries of the opportunity to
increase their national well-being
To solve this problem, national legal regulation is
not enough. The current international legal regulation of the economic
activities of TNCs is formed in the interests of the corporations themselves
and with their direct participation. Its change in favor of the national
interests of countries is being torpedoed.
In the conditions of cardinal changes in the world,
the goal of corporations is to preserve the system of global exploitation. It
is led by an elite of businessmen who do not associate themselves with any
state. Below it are the so-called developed countries of the world, as well as
the “golden billion”. And then - the rest of humanity, contemptuously referred
to as the "third world".
— According to this logic, apparently, Russia in
this hierarchy is not the most enviable place.
— There is no place for our country in the West.
Russia annoys a bunch of world rulers because it has rich resources, a vast
territory, smart and self-sufficient people who love their country, its
traditions and history.
Transnational corporations are unnerved by the
worldview and ideological divergence between Russia and countries controlled by
Western capital. Corporations are aimed at enriching and developing the
consumer society. Russia, on the other hand, upholds a reasonable balance of
spiritual and moral values and socio-economic development.
In this regard, the Westerners seek to weaken our
country, to dismember it, to destroy the Russian language and the Russian
world. They have long worked out the technology of undermining their rivals
from within and breaking them up into small states. This was how they acted
before, when, for example, London, following the results of the First World
War, collapsed empires and stamped dozens of countries out of them. This is how
they operate today. A prime example is Yugoslavia. Having an independent voice
in the international arena, the state is divided into six.
What do the events in Ukraine mean?
— At the end of December, the 100th anniversary of
the formation of the USSR was celebrated. In your opinion, how did the collapse
of the Union in 1991 affect the policy of the United States and its allies?
- He covered them. 15 new subjects of international
law emerged in the space of the former Union. Of course, none of them can be
compared with the USSR in terms of its level of influence, with the exception
of the Russian Federation, which, having retained the international authority
deserved for centuries, is a permanent member of the UN Security Council, plays
a crucial role in the world, defending national interests. Therefore, in the
plans of the Westerners, it remains to continue to pull Russia apart, and in
the end, simply erase it from the political map of the world. Today they still
shout publicly that Russia should not remain united, it should be driven into
the framework of Muscovy of the 15th century. To do this, they do not disdain
anything, including inventing a completely false history of our country,
shifting on it their responsibility for the oppression of other peoples, which
Russia has never done.
The whole story with Ukraine was started in
Washington in order to work out the technologies for delimiting and playing off
a single people. Millions of people are forbidden to speak Russian, their
native language since birth, they are forced to forget their origins. The West,
for the sake of its ambitions, is practically destroying the Ukrainian people,
forcing the active generation to die on the battlefield and bringing the rest
of the population to poverty.
The events in Ukraine are not a clash between Moscow
and Kyiv, this is a military confrontation between NATO, and above all the
United States and England, with Russia. Fearing direct contact, NATO
instructors are driving Ukrainian guys to certain death. With the help of a
special military operation, Russia is liberating its regions from occupation
and must put an end to the bloody experiment of the West to destroy the
fraternal Ukrainian people.
— But in the world, on the contrary, Russia is
accused of seizing the territory of Ukraine, attacks on its infrastructure...
We are not at war with Ukraine, because, by
definition, we cannot have hatred for ordinary Ukrainians. Ukrainian traditions
are close to the inhabitants of Russia, just as the heritage of the Russian
people is inseparable from the culture of Ukrainians. Please note that in
Crimea the Ukrainian language is preserved as one of the state languages.
Ukrainian cultural centers, Ukrainian song and dance ensembles continue to
operate in many cities. In the south of the Far East, given the large
proportion of migrants from the time of Stolypin, a significant number of
residents consider the native culture of the Ukrainian people.
And the sooner the citizens of Ukraine realize that
the West is fighting against Russia with their hands, the more lives will be
saved. Many have long realized this, but are afraid to say so, fearing
reprisals. The West does not plan to save anyone's life at the expense of its
enrichment and other ambitions. At the same time, Americans, British and other
Europeans often create the illusion that they are protecting civilization from
barbarism.
— Are you hinting at the events in
Afghanistan, where the United States declared the fight against terrorism, and
then left rather ignominiously?
— Not only in Afghanistan, but also in other regions.
They themselves created terrorist organizations, such as Al-Qaeda, the Taliban Movement
or ISIS *, to achieve their goals, and they themselves fought against them.
Arranging a demonstration liquidation of terrorist leaders, like Osama bin
Laden, a hundred new ones were trained and armed.
The US presence in Afghanistan turned out not to be
the fight against terrorism, but the creation of multimillion-dollar corruption
schemes and a manifold increase in drug production. The sudden departure of the
Americans from this country, as it turned out, was largely due to the fact that
they were concentrating on Ukraine, where, according to them, the preparation
of the Kyiv puppet regime for offensive anti-Russian actions was going
well. By the way, this was also confirmed by US Secretary of State
Blinken, who said that if the US military had not left Afghanistan,
Washington would not have been able to allocate so much money to Ukraine. In
addition, part of the equipment exported from Afghan soil was transferred to
Europe, mainly to Poland, allowing the Europeans to carry out the
militarization of the Kyiv regime.
— On February 24 last year, Russia called the
goals of the special military operation just the
"demilitarization" and "denazification" of Ukraine. Are you
still confident that these goals will be achieved?
Neo-Nazi criminals who have been rampaging in Ukraine
in recent years will inevitably be punished. However, it is possible that their
curators will try to save the most odious ones for the purpose of using them in
other countries, including for organizing coup d'état and performing sabotage
tasks.
Such a scheme was worked out during the defeat of
Nazi Germany. After 1945, the Americans, the British and the West German
authorities controlled by them reported on the denazification of their zone of
occupation of Germany, while the Nazis saved from punishment were used to
create the armed forces of the FRG, as well as the agent network of American
and British intelligence services, including for covert operations against the
countries of the socialist camps.
The CIA, which until 1948 was called the US Strategic
Services Directorate, actively used former employees of the Abwehr and the Nazi
Reich Imperial Security Directorate to create new German intelligence services.
In the postwar years, the Americans actively involved
Nazi criminals in the development of new types of weapons, including weapons of
mass destruction and their delivery vehicles. The same applies to the use by
the Americans and Japanese war criminals who developed and used chemical and
bacteriological weapons.
"Humanity's potential is far from
exhausted"
— Let's return to the topic of the influence of
transnational corporations on the politics of different countries. You claim
that it is practically limitless. And what methods do you think TNCs have in
their arsenal?
— These methods are the most cynical. Some of them
are experiments with dangerous pathogens and viruses in military biological
laboratories supervised by the Pentagon. Unceremoniously engaged in the moral
and moral decay of society. The West has mastered the zombification of people
with the help of mass propaganda, and now it seeks to use cognitive weapons,
influencing each person pointwise with the help of information technologies and
neuropsychological methods. Promotes neo-liberal and other values, some of which
are inherently directly opposed to human nature. They act consciously and in
their circle do not hide the fact that the LGBT agenda is a tool for gradually
reducing the number of “extra people” who do not fit into the framework of the
notorious “golden billion”. Yesterday they advertised GMOs without caring about
the health consequences of such products, and today they are urging women not
to have children in order to fight climate change. Overseas science proposes to
evaluate people by the amount of carbon they leave behind. Humanity is measured
and counted in the same way that Nazi scientists once measured skulls in search
of criteria for dividing "higher" and "lower races."
– You are painting a rather bleak picture. As if
the end of humanity is not far off...
Humanity’s potential is far from being exhausted.
There are structures that are designed to influence this situation in a
positive way. This is the UN and the UN Security Council. Associations such as
the SCO, BRICS, ASEAN and others are becoming increasingly popular. However,
the West is not interested in the effectiveness of their work. The Anglo-Saxons
are obsessively trying to push the world community to the idea that these
institutions have generally outlived their usefulness, but we must live by the
rules they invented. Those who disagree with their hegemony are labeled “rogue
states”, “terrorist countries”, or states that pose a threat to national
security. At the same time, Western countries do not notice that they
themselves are gradually remaining in the minority, since the world is already
tired of the strategy of force and threats they use.
— How is the Russian leadership going to build its
strategy taking into account the above problems?
Our country is on the path to creating a strong,
modern, independent economy in order to achieve economic sovereignty. Russia
has all the resources for this. We need a culture of their use, a careful and
prudent attitude to our treasures - not only natural, but also intangible.
Russian business must be nationally oriented. Private capital, as well as the
authorities, should think about the long-term development of the country.
Financial independence is important for Russia, as
well as technological sovereignty. We have plenty of our Lomonosovs and
Kulibins. The problem is to notice them in time. It is necessary not only to
develop science and education, but to revive the real cult of the scientist,
engineer, worker. The younger generation should be inspired by the ideas of
creative work for the benefit of our Motherland, and not sit in the offices of
Western corporations.
The invincible strength of Russia is in our
hardworking people, whose advantage lies, among other things, in different
outlooks on life, in their multinationality and multi-confessionalism. It is
important to understand that we have a unique and original culture, that Russia
is not Europe, not Asia, and even more so not “anti-West”. This, by the way, is
our fundamental difference. For a Russian person, hatred, by definition, cannot
be a unifying principle. Only Westerners are full of hatred, who openly call us
opponents. But they need to be reminded of their unsuccessful military
operations in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and other countries ... But in the face of
the emergence of new military threats, it is important for us to have such
armed forces and special services so that Russia's opponents would not even
have the thought that they could fight with us .
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